What's the chance of going out and finding the butterfly which caused Hurricane Alex?

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What's the chance of going out and finding the butterfly which caused Hurricane Alex?

Postby Don Stockbauer » Fri, 02 Jul 2010 03:18:56 GMT

After all, we're told that the flapping of a butterfly's wings can
create a hurricane down the line.

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"dan michaels" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM > wrote in message
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> [...]

> Stephen Gould makes a strong "anti-anthro-
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I only disagree with your last statement.

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