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  • 1. Determinism - a fake
    Determinism is an unsolvable problem. For if someone ever would be capable to solve it, clearly demonstrating that the "the universe is in fact deterministic", that same person would be the only one that could ever reach the solution, contradicting the problem in itself.
  • 2. is pain/pleasure required for learning
    is pain and pleasure required for learning? In learning theory the idea of pain/pleasure is used to represent the feedback that punishes or rewards behaviours. So, does an intelligent system that can learn require pain and pleasure? There is apparently no pain centre in the brain. It appears to involve the attention and emotional (motivational) function of the brain. The stimulus for pain is quite variable over different brains. By pain I mean any negative stimulus, such as a physical itch or emotional suffering. Are those who cannot muster the physical motivation to learn simply suffering from a lack of pleasure from the activity or pain from not being active? Are lazy people, in both a physical and/or mental sense, simply lacking the appropriate feedback mechanisms? They are simply unable to maintain the concentration required to perform the task. Are they to blame for their lack of drive any more than a person who lacks pain receptors to blame for allowing their bodies to be damaged because they feel no pain at all? Successful, motivated people take pride in their "will power" but perhaps they are just fortunate enough to have a feedback system that maintains their activities. What is it that makes something interesting? Isn't that simply a reward feedback. Those that lack that reward feedback are them blamed for not "making an effort". John Casey
  • 3. Computational learning (WAS spikes are symbols)
    Fred Mailhot < XXXX@XXXXX.COM > wrote in message news:<BB31A5E9.5B5B% XXXX@XXXXX.COM >... > Another problem has to do with the entire notion of "category" learning... > the vast majority of COLT's successes have been in statistical theories of > learning, and it seems to be the case (or at least some ppl claim it's > necessary) that categories are necessary in natural language. I won't even > get into the issue of whether or not it's actually possible to learn a > category that doesn't comprise categories that are already known. COLT being computational theory of learning? Unsupervised learning methods derive new categories from data. I think you're missing some research there. I think almost always we infer categories from raw data. They are "made up" in that sense. In fact, that's why there isn't a "correct" way of deriving concepts from any given data. Hard to give the reason, but think like this. You are given some dots plotted on paper. You are asked "how many objects are there on the paper?" What would you answer? You'd be surprised how good some of those algorithms work, even on textual data. In fact, automatic categorization of text is a pretty hot area. Maybe we can use some of those ideas in our google-eater, who knows? ;) Cheers, __ Eray Ozkural

Illuminati: Ritual Sacrifices - Demons- Shape Shifting

Postby ugly » Wed, 07 Nov 2007 11:43:11 GMT

Illuminati, Freemason, Lucifer, satan, 666, NWO, Skull and Bones]

The Illuminati in America

By Svali with interviewer HJ Springer, Chief Editor CentrExNews.com
< XXXX@XXXXX.COM >
Copyright 2000 CentrExNews.com. All rights reserved.
http://educate-yourself.org/mc/mcsvaliinterviewpt9.shtml

Part 9 - Ritual Sacrifices - Demons- Shape Shifting

Q: Svali, earlier on you talked about sacrifices. You are talking
about animal sacrifices, right? Give me a bit more details about that,
please.

A: I hate to sensationalize things by going into gruesome particulars,
but I will share a little.

First, please remember that the Illuminati have SIX branches of
learning, and the spiritual (where the sacrifices are done) is only ONE
part of what they do. I was in Sciences, and used to make fun of people
who specialized in spiritual. Yes, everyone has to go to spiritual
rituals during certain high days, but I tried to stay as far from it as
I could. It's ugly, crude, and gross, but considered important.

1. The celtic branch of spiritual believes that power is passed at the
moment between life and death. They will do rituals with children, or
even older adherents, where the person is tied down, and an animal is
bled to death on top of them. The belief is that the person receives
power from the departing spirit, which "enters" the person. It is also
highly traumatizing and horrible to have an animal go through its death
throes on top of you. Throw in a few threats that "this will happen to
you if you ever tell," and a quite strong impression is made on small
children.

2. Opening portals and dimensions: I know, this sounds like stuff from
a sci-fi film, but these people really believe that there are other
spiritual dimensions, and that to pass into them, first a major
sacrifice is done to "open a portal", usually several animals. I have
also seen animal sacrifices done to protect from the demonic, or {*filter*}
used to "close a circle" so the demonic cannot penetrate it.

The Illuminists very much believe in the spiritual realm, and have
codified practiced over hundreds of years from ancient occultic rituals.
They believe they can control these powers (I believe they are deluded).

Sacrifices are also done on high holy days. I have seen an animal
"psychically killed" in front of me, and have no way to explain what I
saw. I have also seen human sacrifice, but these were very rare (I
believe I have seen two or three real ones in my life, the rest were
set-ups).

They really don't want to kill off their children, they want a new
generation to grow up and continue the practices. I have also heard of
them buying children from other countries, and using them, or the
homeless, but never witnessed it myself.

More often, I saw animals used in sacrifices and rituals. Other loss of
life, rare but horrible, I saw as a head trainer because of my job.
Rarely, a trainer would push a person too far, and didn't check for
signs of stress. Especially with some of the newer medications used to
create trance states, their meds covered the more obvious signs of
trauma and stress (elevated heart rate, rapid breathing, tremors, pupil
size changing), or blunted them.

Inexperienced trainers would miss more subtle signs, and basically screw
a person up. It is horrible to work with a person, and they NEVER COME
BACK. They become a vegetable, or worse, they scream and scream for
hours without end.

We ocass

Illuminati: Ritual Sacrifices - Demons- Shape Shifting

Postby nukleus » Mon, 28 Jul 2008 09:14:09 GMT

Illuminati, Freemason, Lucifer, satan, 666, NWO, Skull and Bones]

The Illuminati in America

By Svali with interviewer HJ Springer, Chief Editor CentrExNews.com
< XXXX@XXXXX.COM >
Copyright 2000 CentrExNews.com. All rights reserved.
http://educate-yourself.org/mc/mcsvaliinterviewpt9.shtml

Part 9 - Ritual Sacrifices - Demons- Shape Shifting

Q: Svali, earlier on you talked about sacrifices. You are talking
about animal sacrifices, right? Give me a bit more details about that,
please.

A: I hate to sensationalize things by going into gruesome particulars,
but I will share a little.

First, please remember that the Illuminati have SIX branches of
learning, and the spiritual (where the sacrifices are done) is only ONE
part of what they do. I was in Sciences, and used to make fun of people
who specialized in spiritual. Yes, everyone has to go to spiritual
rituals during certain high days, but I tried to stay as far from it as
I could. It's ugly, crude, and gross, but considered important.

1. The celtic branch of spiritual believes that power is passed at the
moment between life and death. They will do rituals with children, or
even older adherents, where the person is tied down, and an animal is
bled to death on top of them. The belief is that the person receives
power from the departing spirit, which "enters" the person. It is also
highly traumatizing and horrible to have an animal go through its death
throes on top of you. Throw in a few threats that "this will happen to
you if you ever tell," and a quite strong impression is made on small
children.

2. Opening portals and dimensions: I know, this sounds like stuff from
a sci-fi film, but these people really believe that there are other
spiritual dimensions, and that to pass into them, first a major
sacrifice is done to "open a portal", usually several animals. I have
also seen animal sacrifices done to protect from the demonic, or {*filter*}
used to "close a circle" so the demonic cannot penetrate it.

The Illuminists very much believe in the spiritual realm, and have
codified practiced over hundreds of years from ancient occultic rituals.
They believe they can control these powers (I believe they are deluded).

Sacrifices are also done on high holy days. I have seen an animal
"psychically killed" in front of me, and have no way to explain what I
saw. I have also seen human sacrifice, but these were very rare (I
believe I have seen two or three real ones in my life, the rest were
set-ups).

They really don't want to kill off their children, they want a new
generation to grow up and continue the practices. I have also heard of
them buying children from other countries, and using them, or the
homeless, but never witnessed it myself.

More often, I saw animals used in sacrifices and rituals. Other loss of
life, rare but horrible, I saw as a head trainer because of my job.
Rarely, a trainer would push a person too far, and didn't check for
signs of stress. Especially with some of the newer medications used to
create trance states, their meds covered the more obvious signs of
trauma and stress (elevated heart rate, rapid breathing, tremors, pupil
size changing), or blunted them.

Inexperienced trainers would miss more subtle signs, and basically screw
a person up. It is horrible to work with a person, and they NEVER COME
BACK. They become a vegetable, or worse, they scream and scream for
hours without end.

We ocass

Illuminati: Ritual Sacrifices - Demons- Shape Shifting

Postby Tom Costanza » Sat, 23 Aug 2008 00:05:59 GMT

Illuminati, Freemason, Lucifer, satan, 666, NWO, Skull and Bones]

The Illuminati in America

By Svali with interviewer HJ Springer, Chief Editor CentrExNews.com
< XXXX@XXXXX.COM >
Copyright 2000 CentrExNews.com. All rights reserved.
http://educate-yourself.org/mc/mcsvaliinterviewpt9.shtml

Part 9 - Ritual Sacrifices - Demons- Shape Shifting

Q: Svali, earlier on you talked about sacrifices. You are talking
about animal sacrifices, right? Give me a bit more details about that,
please.

A: I hate to sensationalize things by going into gruesome particulars,
but I will share a little.

First, please remember that the Illuminati have SIX branches of
learning, and the spiritual (where the sacrifices are done) is only ONE
part of what they do. I was in Sciences, and used to make fun of people
who specialized in spiritual. Yes, everyone has to go to spiritual
rituals during certain high days, but I tried to stay as far from it as
I could. It's ugly, crude, and gross, but considered important.

1. The celtic branch of spiritual believes that power is passed at the
moment between life and death. They will do rituals with children, or
even older adherents, where the person is tied down, and an animal is
bled to death on top of them. The belief is that the person receives
power from the departing spirit, which "enters" the person. It is also
highly traumatizing and horrible to have an animal go through its death
throes on top of you. Throw in a few threats that "this will happen to
you if you ever tell," and a quite strong impression is made on small
children.

2. Opening portals and dimensions: I know, this sounds like stuff from
a sci-fi film, but these people really believe that there are other
spiritual dimensions, and that to pass into them, first a major
sacrifice is done to "open a portal", usually several animals. I have
also seen animal sacrifices done to protect from the demonic, or {*filter*}
used to "close a circle" so the demonic cannot penetrate it.

The Illuminists very much believe in the spiritual realm, and have
codified practiced over hundreds of years from ancient occultic rituals.
They believe they can control these powers (I believe they are deluded).

Sacrifices are also done on high holy days. I have seen an animal
"psychically killed" in front of me, and have no way to explain what I
saw. I have also seen human sacrifice, but these were very rare (I
believe I have seen two or three real ones in my life, the rest were
set-ups).

They really don't want to kill off their children, they want a new
generation to grow up and continue the practices. I have also heard of
them buying children from other countries, and using them, or the
homeless, but never witnessed it myself.

More often, I saw animals used in sacrifices and rituals. Other loss of
life, rare but horrible, I saw as a head trainer because of my job.
Rarely, a trainer would push a person too far, and didn't check for
signs of stress. Especially with some of the newer medications used to
create trance states, their meds covered the more obvious signs of
trauma and stress (elevated heart rate, rapid breathing, tremors, pupil
size changing), or blunted them.

Inexperienced trainers would miss more subtle signs, and basically screw
a person up. It is horrible to work with a person, and they NEVER COME
BACK. They become a vegetable, or worse, they scream and scream for
hours without end.

We ocass

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4.In defence of DEMONS!

I have no greater perception of another persons autonomy than I have
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I have no more grounds for accepting the reality of material objects than I
have grounds for accepting the reality of a demon.
I have no experience that I can distinguish as distinct from an experience,
so my experience of a demon stands firm as an experience.

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