ANN: Apple 13-Sector Disk Transfer (ADT13)

apple2

    Sponsored Links

    Next

  • 1. Wanted: Supplement to Beneath Apple ProDOS Version 1.0.1 & 1.0.2 and 1.1.1
    -- Bryan Parkoff
  • 2. Weird iigs board
    I picked up a iigs, and it has some weird board in it. Its plugged in the memory expansion slot. It's three boards fused together. It has a plug attached to the case that sorta looks like it accept european power plugs. The outer boards are memory boards, the inner one has leds on it. I can't see any printing on the inside board. Sound board? Packet Radio board? Network board? Any info is appreciated. John

ANN: Apple 13-Sector Disk Transfer (ADT13)

Postby Linards Ticmanis » Sat, 19 Nov 2005 20:37:01 GMT

Hello all,

I've hacked together a 13-sector version of ADT. Before I make a 
release, I'd appreciate it if a few people (who preferably already have 
standard 16-sector ADT running well on their setup) could have a look 
into it and report their successes and/or failures before I upload a 
"real" release to Asimov.

The system requirements are: Any 48K or higher Apple II or compatible, 
with any Apple or compatible 5.25 inch drive, an Apple Super Serial 
Card, a Nullmodem or serial Cable, a PC; basically any setup that is 
able to run standard ADT. No 13-sector disks or 13-sector Disk II 
controllers are required.

Currently on the PC end there are versions for MS-DOS (works fairly well 
under Windows 95/98/ME, and "sorta kinda" works on NT/2000/XP), and for 
Linux (source and i386 executable).

I'd be grateful if somebody could compile it for Windows eventually when 
it's finished, since I don't have a C compiler for Windows, and being on 
dialup I don't really plan on downloading one in the near future.

The package, as available now, comes with

1.) DOS32.DMP, a text file to send to your Apple via the serial link, 
which "types in" Apple DOS 3.2 (following the DOS33.DMP model) to give 
you a start, if you have no bootable 13-sector disks.

2.) ADT13.DMP, the same for the ADT13 executable.

3.) ADT13.D13, a 13-sector disk image of ADT13

4.) DOS32STD.D13 and DOS32PLS.D13, reconstructed 13-sector Disk images 
of the Apple DOS 3.2 System master.

5.) BOOT13.DSK, a standard 16-sector image that prepares the Apple for a 
13-sector boot if you don't have a 13-sector Disk II controller. 
Transfer with standard ADT.

6.) COPY2P55.DSK, Copy II Plus 5.5, I'm including it because it is 
fairly useful for moving stuff back and forth between 13-sector and 
16-sector disks.

7.) Linux and DOS executables for ADT13.

8.) Sources for the PC end of things. On the Apple side I just 
hex-edited the standard ADT executable, so there are no sources beyond 
the standard ADT source.

9.) A few instructions, which presume that you already know how to run 
standard ADT. Full instructions will be written once the test is through.

If you'd be so nice as to volunteer a test, please drop me a line to 
" XXXX@XXXXX.COM " (unmangled; I get spammed anyway) with a valid return 
address, and I'll mail it to you as a .ZIP file (or .tar.gz if you 
prefer). The whole package should be about 200-300 Kilobytes. Please 
don't distribute the preliminary version; the final version will be 
free-for-all.

WANTED: Binary files of the two 13-sector Disk II controller PROMs, any 
13-sector Disk images you might make with the program (especially from 
any Apple DOS 3.0, 3.1, 3.2 or 3.2.1 Master Disks, but send anything). 
I'd like to set up a little "Apple II 13-sector corner" Web Site if and 
when as I manage to get together enough stuff to make it worthwhile.

Happy hacking,
-- 
Linards Ticmanis

Re: ANN: Apple 13-Sector Disk Transfer (ADT13)

Postby Lyrical Nanoha » Sat, 19 Nov 2005 23:14:35 GMT




Hell, I'd love to see 3.1 and 3.2.1. xD;

I should try to hack SDDapple to support DSK13...

-uso.

Similar Threads:

1.ADT13: 13-sector ADT, 13-sector ROMs and 13-sector emulation progress report

Hello all,

I've put together a new improved package for ADT13, the 13-sector 
version of ADT.

There's no more need to "dump" stuff to the Apple using a comm program 
now - just send a standard 16-sector "bootstrap" disk image to the Apple 
using standard ADT, boot it, type in three commands and off you go. 
It's all explained in the included README.TXT file. Thanks go to Daniel 
Schmidt, who explained the principle in an old post of his in this group.

It's currently at

> ftp://ftp.apple.asimov.net/pub/apple_II/incoming/adt-1.22-13-sector.zip

but since Asimov's incoming directory isn't world-readable, the link is 
currently useless; the file should be moved to the "unsorted" directory 
eventually; so if you're interested you can either wait or ask me to 
mail it to you.

Since I don't have a Windows C compiler available, there's still only 
Linux and DOS versions included; the DOS version sort-of works under 
Windows, though. A quick fix would be if someone could compile the 
included Linux source with Cygwin or some such thing.

As a sidenote, this is still based on ADT 1.22 which maxes out at 19.200 
bps; as soon as Knut and Ed are done with their new 115.200 bps version, 
I hope to do a new release based on that code. However 13-sector disks 
are of course shorter than 16-sector disks and thus quicker to transfer, 
while the disk reading and writing part is a bit slower on the other 
hand; thus the gain to be achieved by using 115.200 bps won't be as 
great for ADT13 as for standard 16-sector ADT anyway.


I've also uploaded the 13-sector Disk II controller card ROM contents 
(boot code ROM and state machine ROM) to the same directory at

> ftp://ftp.apple.asimov.net/pub/apple_II/incoming/13-sector-disk-ii-roms.zip

(also unreadable; ask me or wait until it's been moved into "unsorted".) 
Many thanks to JPLSCH from France for graciously sending me those files. 
As you probably know, the 16-sector state machine ROM can deal with both 
16-sector and 13-sector disks, while the 13-sector state machine ROM has 
trouble with 16-sector disks. The boot ROMs, on the other hand, can only 
boot disks with "their" right number of sectors. So to make a controller 
for booting 13-sector disks it's best to use the 13-sector boot ROM but 
to stick to the more versatile and reliable 16-sector state machine ROM.


I've additionally hacked YAE for 13-sector support. The code isn't all 
that pretty since it's just Apple's assemby language code from DOS 3.2 
rewritten into C. I can mail the modified YAE source code (contains a 
number of other small improvements as well) and/or a Linux-i386 
executable to any people interested in this.


I'd like to politely ask anybody who still has 13-sector disks and is 
willing to give this program a try, to please send me any .d13 disk 
images you might produce so that I can put them on a planned "13-sector 
corner" Web Site once there's enough to make it worthwhile.

Happy Hacking,

-- 
Linards Ticmanis

2.ADT13: 13-sector ADT, 13-sector ROMs and 13-sector emulation progress report

Very nice and well done! I do have a few 13-sector disks that I'd like 
to image at some point. You should send a note to A2Central, they seem 
to announce these sorts of things on their home page.

Stephane

Linards Ticmanis wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> I've put together a new improved package for ADT13, the 13-sector 
> version of ADT.
> 
> There's no more need to "dump" stuff to the Apple using a comm program 
> now - just send a standard 16-sector "bootstrap" disk image to the Apple 
> using standard ADT, boot it, type in three commands and off you go. It's 
> all explained in the included README.TXT file. Thanks go to Daniel 
> Schmidt, who explained the principle in an old post of his in this group.
> 
> It's currently at
> 
>> ftp://ftp.apple.asimov.net/pub/apple_II/incoming/adt-1.22-13-sector.zip
> 
> 
> but since Asimov's incoming directory isn't world-readable, the link is 
> currently useless; the file should be moved to the "unsorted" directory 
> eventually; so if you're interested you can either wait or ask me to 
> mail it to you.
> 
> Since I don't have a Windows C compiler available, there's still only 
> Linux and DOS versions included; the DOS version sort-of works under 
> Windows, though. A quick fix would be if someone could compile the 
> included Linux source with Cygwin or some such thing.
> 
> As a sidenote, this is still based on ADT 1.22 which maxes out at 19.200 
> bps; as soon as Knut and Ed are done with their new 115.200 bps version, 
> I hope to do a new release based on that code. However 13-sector disks 
> are of course shorter than 16-sector disks and thus quicker to transfer, 
> while the disk reading and writing part is a bit slower on the other 
> hand; thus the gain to be achieved by using 115.200 bps won't be as 
> great for ADT13 as for standard 16-sector ADT anyway.
> 
> 
> I've also uploaded the 13-sector Disk II controller card ROM contents 
> (boot code ROM and state machine ROM) to the same directory at
> 
>> ftp://ftp.apple.asimov.net/pub/apple_II/incoming/13-sector-disk-ii-roms.zip 
>>
> 
> 
> (also unreadable; ask me or wait until it's been moved into "unsorted".) 
> Many thanks to JPLSCH from France for graciously sending me those files. 
> As you probably know, the 16-sector state machine ROM can deal with both 
> 16-sector and 13-sector disks, while the 13-sector state machine ROM has 
> trouble with 16-sector disks. The boot ROMs, on the other hand, can only 
> boot disks with "their" right number of sectors. So to make a controller 
> for booting 13-sector disks it's best to use the 13-sector boot ROM but 
> to stick to the more versatile and reliable 16-sector state machine ROM.
> 
> 
> I've additionally hacked YAE for 13-sector support. The code isn't all 
> that pretty since it's just Apple's assemby language code from DOS 3.2 
> rewritten into C. I can mail the modified YAE source code (contains a 
> number of other small improvements as well) and/or a Linux-i386 
> executable to any people interested in this.
> 
> 
> I'd like to politely ask anybody who still has 13-sector disks and is 
> willing to give this program a try, to please send me any .d13 disk 
> images you might produce so that I can put them on a planned "13-sector 
> corner" Web Site once there's enough to make it worthwhile.
> 
> Happy Hacking,
> 

3.ADT13 pack faster 13-sector bootstrap

4.13-Sector disk images

I'm trying to get a physical disk made of the DOS 3.2 Master... or any
13-sector disk made from a 13-sector disk image on the PC
(mostly .D13, but also tried converting to .NIB).  I'm having
difficulty getting this done.  Standard ADTPro doesn't seem to support
13-sector (?) and ADT-13 never recognizes the floppy in the drive to
allow me to write to it.  I seem to be able to format blank 13-sector
disks by exiting ADT-13 and doing INIT HELLO, but those disks are
never recognized by ADT-13 when I go to Receive a .D13 image.

Any thoughts?

--Nels

5.13-sector DISK.ROM

6. 13-sector Disk ][ boot code AND CiderPress on DOS 3.1

7. 13 sector disk images?

8. 13-sector Disk ][ boot code won't boot



Return to apple2

 

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 30 guest