Master of Orion II



  • 1. Real-time Strategy games
    I've almost always avoided anything with 'real-time' in the title because I'm pretty slow, but one or two games I was thinking about putting on my Christmas list say they're in this category. I'm having a bit of trouble picturing what an RTS would be like. Can anyone give a simple summary? I've played several 4x TBS games, primarily Civ, so you can assume I know about that kind of strategy game.
  • 2. ID this old PC game
    Playing the Age of Empires III demo has reminded me of a PC strategy game demo I played quite some years ago. Probably in 1996 or 1997, and almost certainly gotten from a cover CD with a Danish computer magazine, rather than downloaded (at 28.8k, or more likely 19.2k, I didn't download a lot of demos back then). At around that time, but quite possibly some months earlier or later, I also got the Mission Force: Cyberstorm demo, and the Duke Nukem 3D demo. I don't remember all that much, but it was some kind of new world colonization game, I'm fairly sure. It was not Sid Meier's Colonization, though. I've played that one. This game had a RTS feel to parts of it, but battles were fought turn-based on some kind of game board, with square tiles. You had infantry, cavalry and artillery, and maybe some vaguely chess-like rules for movement. Outside of battles, you moved an explorer-like character around in a primitive 3D enviroment, to uncover shrouded land, and if you were the first to find a land mark, such as a mountain peak, you got to name it. You obviously had a city or a base, but I can't recall if you could add buildings inside it, or create military units. I'm afraid that's all I remember. Can anyone tell me what this game was called? -- Peter Knutsen

Master of Orion II

Postby a.fanta » Thu, 09 Oct 2003 22:00:20 GMT

Hi there!

Can anybody tell me how I would get the good old Master of Orion II to
work properly on my Win 2000 professional box. Currently, it keeps
crashing after a couple of minutes. How can I get a stable
performance? Is this even possible?
If you know please answer me to the given e-mail adress.



Re: Master of Orion II

Postby Allan C Cybulskie » Sat, 11 Oct 2003 09:19:40 GMT

I have the same problem, but with Windows 98, so if any knows of a known
issue, can you post it here as well?

It worked in 95, but not here.

Re: Master of Orion II

Postby Jeffery S. Jones » Sat, 11 Oct 2003 10:43:10 GMT

On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 20:19:40 -0400, Allan C Cybulskie

  I presume you're running the Orion95 executable, as it is most

  Turn off sound & music.  If that works, you know it is a sound
driver sort of issue.

  Maybe, try a full reinstall of the game.  It is possible some file
is corrupted.  Do a 100% install, you know, to copy everything to the
hard drive (if nothing else, just copy the entire CD to a folder, then
install it from there rather than the CDROM).

  Make sure you have updated drivers -- the usual generalized

  Another obvious thing is to run the 1.31 (last) patch version.
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Re: Master of Orion II

Postby The Ruzicka Family » Tue, 14 Oct 2003 05:40:04 GMT

Works in XP as well! (I don't even have to use a "compatibility" mode)

Re: Master of Orion II

Postby RogerM » Tue, 14 Oct 2003 06:35:08 GMT

Works in XP for me, as well. Runs too damn fast for tactical combat,
which is a major drag.

Too many sticks, not enough carrots.

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