[News] [Rival] Seemingly Highly Corrupt Bank Fights for Digital Censorship

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[News] [Rival] Seemingly Highly Corrupt Bank Fights for Digital Censorship

Postby Roy Schestowitz » Sun, 02 Mar 2008 00:35:01 GMT

Wikileaks Shutdown: Censorship Is Censorship

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| If Wikileaks were a print publication, the injunction that has shut down the 
| site would be unthinkable. Back in 1931, the U.S. Supreme Court struck down a 
| Minnesota law that allowed the closing of any "malicious, scandalous and 
| defamatory" periodical. This court, by contrast, has not only barred future 
| publication of the documents at issue but elected to put Wikileaks out of 
| business.     
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Free Speech Advocates Mount Legal Battle to Unchain Wikileaks

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| In Bank Julius Baer & Co., Ltd v. Wikileaks, et al, the plaintiff claims that 
| the posting of certain documents to the Wikileaks site violated Swiss and 
| Cayman Island bank secrecy laws.  
| 
| Judge Jeffrey White ordered domain registrar Dynadot to disable Wikileaks.org 
| in response to Julius Baer & Co.'s complaint. The groups behind the request 
| to lift the injunction claim that it violates the First Amendment.  
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Bank Julius Baer: killed by openness?


Context:

WikiLeaks Under Fire

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| The transparency group WikiLeaks.org currently seems to be under heavy fire. 
| The main WikiLeaks.org DNS entry is unavailable, reportedly due to a 
| restraining order relating to a series of articles and documents released by 
| WikiLeaks about off-shore trust structures in the Cayman Islands. The 
| WikiLeaks whistle blower, allegedly former vice president of the Cayman 
| Islands branch of swiss bank Julius Baer, states in the WikiLeaks documents 
| that the bank supported tax evasion and money laundering by its clients from 
| around the world    
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Re: [News] [Rival] Seemingly Highly Corrupt Bank Fights for Digital Censorship

Postby Mark Kent » Sun, 02 Mar 2008 20:38:56 GMT

Roy Schestowitz < XXXX@XXXXX.COM > espoused:

Corruption is, err, corruption, now matter how you dress it up.

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Re: [News] [Rival] Seemingly Highly Corrupt Bank Fights for Digital Censorship

Postby Roy Schestowitz » Mon, 03 Mar 2008 01:56:11 GMT

____/ Mark Kent on Saturday 01 March 2008 11:38 : \____


They issued a press release and they sent lawyers to serve as middlemen. It's
looking ugly and it's a victory for transparency over corruption. Good stuff
indeed! No fight for openness and justice is without resistance (from thugs).
Based on Microsoft's finances, Bank Julius Baer might be not much different
from Microsoft, but we shall see...


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Re: [News] [Rival] Seemingly Highly Corrupt Bank Fights for Digital Censorship

Postby [H]omer » Tue, 04 Mar 2008 07:55:49 GMT



'The Zurich bank says: "It was the sole objective of Julius Baer to have
legally protected documents removed from Wikileaks. We brought legal
action against the website only after our initial efforts proved
unsuccessful. In the course of taking such action, the bank has been
made the subject of serious defamatory allegations. Such allegations are
based on forged and stolen documents and are unequivocally denied. We
have always sought to act in the best interests of our clients and shall
continue to do so."'

 http://www.**--****.com/ 

"Such allegations are based on forged and stolen documents and are
unequivocally denied."

Erm.

So which is it, are they forged or stolen?

If they're forged, then it's simply a case of libel, and it's therefore
questionable whether they had any right to shut down Wikileaks (freedom
of expression, parody, etc.).

If they're stolen then presumably they're genuine, unless Baer is
claiming that they forge their own documents, in which case the Swiss
Federal Banking Commission might want to have a word.

"We have always sought to act in the best interests of our clients"

A.k.a. tax evaders.

So, to recap ... Baer Bank unequivocally denies that the document's are
genuine, unless they are stolen, in which case they are genuine and
Baer wants them back, and demands that the Website that published these
fake document's be taken down, in order to protect the interests of tax
evaders, the financial dealings of whom are accurately documented in
these fake documents that Baer unequivocally denies are genuine.

I see.

Meanwhile Wikileaks is still up, sans the FQDN:

 http://www.**--****.com/ 

If they're looking for a FQDN, wikileaks.slated.org is available. ;)

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