Solved, the driver I proposed takes an acpi_object_list for passing arguments to the methods. The kernel-userspace interface replaces the pointers in these structures with offsets into the buffer (userspace responsibility to pass in offsets, kernel responsibility to pass back offsets). I've modified the sysfs bin_file to allow ACPI object files to have backing store on a per-open basis. There are special commands that can be written to the ACPI object files to evaluate attributes of them. Perhaps these could include some of the things we're looking for here. I've made an attempt to hide the most obvious dangerous methods, but undoubtedly, there will be some. Why are we any more likely to hit an AML method bug, interpreter bug or architectural bug by having a userspace interface? Because we can more easily exercise the code? It calls the same code paths a driver could. The driver I propose for this task does not require any additionally low-level ACPI functions to be exported. I think it's too much complexity in the kernel to abstract every possible bit of data someone might find useful into kernel drivers. Take a simple case of looking for a device with a specific _HID value and wanting the _CRS data for it. The _HID value part is easy, but add all the smarts to parse the _CRS data into something human readable, and code bloat gets huge. Then throw in the problem of parsing vendor data types, and you'll never get finished. This is a real example. The zx1 ia64 chipset can only be discovered through ACPI namespace. It's physical address is saved in a vendor resource descriptor. We currently have to do some pretty ugly stuff in X to take a reasonable guess a what chipset we're using. We need some mechanism to get this data in userspace, and I don't see an approach better than offloading the complicated data parsing into userspace. Adding only the methods needed to solve a specific problem sounds like a maintainability nightmare. Thanks, Alex - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to XXXX@XXXXX.COM More majordomo info at http://www.**--****.com/ Please read the FAQ at http://www.**--****.com/