Bots in Lisp?

Hi guys,
I have been thinking about writing a bot (probably for IRC), and was
wondering if this could be done fairly easily in Lisp. I know it is
fairly easy to build a KB with Lisp, but what about the advantages a
langauge such as Perl would offer to the speed of extracting key words
from input to give sensible answers. Can Lisp do this as fast as Perl
can?
What other factors are there to desinging a bot?
Thanks.

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neo88 (Philip Haddad)

 XXXX@XXXXX.COM  (neo88) writes:


In which language do you think minion is programmed?
Does it feel fast enough for you?



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regexps in lisp are known to be fatster than in perl due to the fact that
each regexp gets compiled to machine code rahter than run through an  
interpreter.
So yes you can expect better performance in lisp. The question is.. do you  
need it?







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 XXXX@XXXXX.COM  (neo88) writes:


Say what?  I really can't think of a language where it would be hard
to do this fast enough.  Hell, bash + associated text utility programs
would be fine.


Remember "premature optimization ..."

Cheers,
mwh

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Let me guess... Lisp. minion is pretty fast, although it seems like
database lookup can be slow from time to time, but maybe that's cause
he's getting to many requests.


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neo88 (Philip Haddad)

Take a look at what is already available:

www.cliki.net/Lisp%20IRC%20Bots

https://sourceforge.net/projects/claim/

I've looked at both of those links, and I found them to be quite
interesting, espcially the first one. I was looking for a bot's source
to read, one in CMUCL, since that is what I'll be using, and found
WmBot. And after I *finally* got ASDF working, I should be able to
load cl-irc.
Since I've never done any network programming before though, I have to
start with the basics of that :-) I have already read Mario Mommer's
documentation on it in the CMU-User's Guide. But I need some more
references that show more of what is involved. Google doesn't do so
well, returning a lot on C++ networking and such. I am not expecting
to be able to write this thing in just a few short weeks either, since
I'm still a bit new to Lisp, I relieze this could take some time.

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neo88 (Philip Haddad)

> And after I *finally* got ASDF working, I should be able to

Should be able to get cl-irc working is about right. I keep getting
this error when doing:

(asdf:operate 'asdf:load-op :cl-irc)
==>
Unable to display error condition: Error in format: Unknown format
directive.
  ~@<component ~S not found~
             ~@[ or does not match version ~A~]~
             ~@[ in ~A~]~@:>
                            ^
   [Condition of type ASDF:MISSING-COMPONENT]

The full backtrace can be found here:
 http://www.**--****.com/ 
So I guess my question is what are the missing components that asdf is
complaining about? I have all of the cl-irc files symlinked in the
manner described here:  http://www.**--****.com/ 

Can someone please help me? I really want to get this working! Thanks.

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neo88 (Philip Haddad)

You seem to have negelected saying with what lisp and os you are working  
with.







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CMUCL 18e on Mandrake Linux 9.1

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neo88 (Philip Haddad)

I bet this is a UNIX/DOS end of line mess.

Check the file encoding and the ~<newline> in the format string.  Maybe 
your lisp on DOS or UNIX does not recognize the proper ~<newline> coming 
from UNIX or DOS.

Cheers

> I bet this is a UNIX/DOS end of line mess.

Well, I got it so that now asdf hangs with the error
"MISSING-DEPENDENCY" instead of "MISSING-COMPONENT" as before. I
actually hangs right after it starts to make the package cl-irc. I
think what I am going to have to do is get all of the files form
viewcvs and make them a tarball myself gzip them, then tar xzfv them
over the older ones. That is my next plan anyways, it'll a wee bit
time-consuming, so I probably won't be able to get to it for the next
24 hours anyways :-(

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