I have made a word file with a png graphic file as a background in header and footer, and use this as a letter. On the mac, this make a file who is aprox. 200 KB -also when typed in, an resaved. But when i do the same in a PC version of word, the resaved file is over 11 MB ! [before i do anything with it, its still 200 KB on the PC] Have tried everything. Someone out there who has faced the same problem, and solved it? Please help!
Word file w/png or .jpg graphic significant more heavy when resaved in word for PC
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Word file w/png or .jpg graphic significant more heavy when resaved in word for PC
by bent » Wed, 22 Dec 2004 09:44:07 GMT
Re: Word file w/png or .jpg graphic significant more heavy when resaved in word for PC
by Tim Murray » Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:28:40 GMT
I don't have a solution, but a question: How large is the original PNG graphic, alone?
Re: Word file w/png or .jpg graphic significant more heavy when resaved in word for PC
by Bentrn » Wed, 22 Dec 2004 20:51:58 GMT
aprox. PC PNG The PNG file is 180 KB when not opened. When the PNG file is opened in a application, for instance Photoshop, its about 11 MB. It seems that Word for PC is formating the graphic when resaved, but i don understand how i turn this off, or how i can work around it.
Re: Word file w/png or .jpg graphic significant more heavy when resaved in word for PC
by Daiya Mitchell » Thu, 23 Dec 2004 00:34:41 GMT
It may be something to do with WinWord, and nothing to do with the fact the
doc was created on a Mac.
MVP Suzanne Barnhill gives several possible causes for excessive file size,
of which graphics are only one:
Quoting:
1. Fast Saves: Disable this at on the Save tab of Tools | Options.
2. Preview Picture: Clear the check box on the Summary tab of File |
Properties.
3. Versions (File | Versions): Make sure "Automatically save version on
close" is not turned on.
4. Revisions (Tools | Track Changes):
Highlight Changes: Make sure "Highlight changes on screen" is turned on.
Accept/Reject Changes: If "Accept All" or "Reject All" is available then
revisions are present; accept or reject all changes, then turn Track Changes
off.
5. Embedded True Type fonts (Tools | Options | Save)
6. Embedded graphics: When feasible, it is preferable to link the graphics.
7. Document corruption: See
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Re: Word file w/png or .jpg graphic significant more heavy when resaved in word for PC
by WJ Shack » Thu, 23 Dec 2004 08:06:23 GMT
in article XXXX@XXXXX.COM , Bent Fossan at XXXX@XXXXX.COM wrote on 12/20/04 6:44 PM: Are you using Word 97 on the PC? In Word 97 graphics are not solved in compressed forms (png or jpg), but in their full expanded size. The only solution is to switch to a more modern version of Word on the PC.
Re: Word file w/png or .jpg graphic significant more heavy when resaved in word for PC
by John McGhie » Tue, 28 Dec 2004 14:26:01 GMT
Word on the PC saves the expanded (BMP) version of a graphic along with the PNG version. We normally recommend EPS for things such as letter heads: these give printable resolution without the file bloat. On 21/12/04 11:44 AM, in article XXXX@XXXXX.COM , "Bent Fossan" -- Please reply to the newsgroup to maintain the thread. Please do not email me unless I ask you to. John McGhie < XXXX@XXXXX.COM > Consultant Technical Writer Sydney, Australia +61 4 1209 1410
Re: Word file w/png or .jpg graphic significant more heavy when resaved in word for PC
by Bentrn » Tue, 04 Jan 2005 00:15:08 GMT
Thanks for the tip, John. Sorry about the delay in coming back to you, but its the holidays...A question: will it function with at EPS file who is JPEG encoded? [in Photoshop its possible to save eps files with jpeg encoding, for lower weight Without any encoding on a bitmap file, the file ends up over 10 MB anyway. This because the user is demanding a certain quality when printed out, and that the graphic is quite elaborate and big and can be licedin bits to remove white areas]. >> Word on the PC saves the expanded (BMP) version of a graphic along with the >> PNG version. >> >> We normally recommend EPS for things such as letter heads: these give >> printable resolution without the file bloat. >> >> >> On 21/12/04 11:44 AM, in article >> XXXX@XXXXX.COM , "Bent Fossan" >> >>>> I have made a word file with a png graphic file as a background in >>>> header and footer, >>>> and use this as a letter. On the mac, this make a file who is aprox. >>>> 200 KB -also when typed in, an resaved. But when i do the same in a PC >>>> version of word, the resaved file is over 11 MB ! [before i do >>>> anything with it, its still 200 KB on the PC] Have tried everything. >>>> Someone out there who has faced the same problem, and solved it? >>>> Please help! >> >> -- >> >> Please reply to the newsgroup to maintain the thread. Please do not email >> me unless I ask you to. >> >> John McGhie<< XXXX@XXXXX.COM >> >> Consultant Technical Writer >> Sydney, Australia +61 4 1209 1410
Re: Word file w/png or .jpg graphic significant more heavy when resaved in word for PC
by Bentrn » Tue, 04 Jan 2005 00:20:56 GMT
Thanks Daiya! Sorry for not responding earlier, but you know -the holidays.... I will check out your tips. Tanks a lot! Best regards, Bent
Re: Word file w/png or .jpg graphic significant more heavy when resaved in word for PC
by Bentrn » Tue, 04 Jan 2005 00:26:33 GMT
That's a possibility! I will ask the user for her version of word. Thanks WJ Shack! Best regards, Bent
Re: Word file w/png or .jpg graphic significant more heavy when resaved in word for PC
by Tim Murray » Wed, 05 Jan 2005 01:28:23 GMT
Not a Word solution, but: Sounds like $50 spent by having real letterhead printed would be saved in what you're spending in aspirin.
Re: Word file w/png or .jpg graphic significant more heavy when resaved in word for PC
by Bill Weylock » Wed, 05 Jan 2005 03:21:18 GMT
gt; This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand
this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.
There is an incredibly easy answer for this.
In Photoshop, Save for Web, and give yourself a max resolution JPEG with all
the colors, and plenty of sharpness for the size you want to display.
An EPS file is not needed, and will continue to cause you exactly these
problems.
Your Word is showing you an automatically reduced copy of your original
graphic; but when you send email, it dutifully includes the monster version.
Surely you see the file taking a long time to transmit?
EPS is (pardon me) just plain silly for a standard letterhead to be shared
with clients and the outside world.
If youe using it to order more printed letterhead, yeah. But who cares if
it looks fuzzy when someone expands it to three times intended size? You and
I would too.
Best,
- Bill
On 1/2/05 7:15 AM, in article
XXXX@XXXXX.COM , "Bentrn"
< XXXX@XXXXX.COM > wrote:
Panther 10.3.6
Office 2004
Windows XP Pro SP2
Office 2003
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this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.
There is an incredibly easy answer for this.
In Photoshop, Save for Web, and give yourself a max resolution JPEG with all
the colors, and plenty of sharpness for the size you want to display.
An EPS file is not needed, and will continue to cause you exactly these
problems.
Your Word is showing you an automatically reduced copy of your original
graphic; but when you send email, it dutifully includes the monster version.
Surely you see the file taking a long time to transmit?
EPS is (pardon me) just plain silly for a standard letterhead to be shared
with clients and the outside world.
If youe using it to order more printed letterhead, yeah. But who cares if
it looks fuzzy when someone expands it to three times intended size? You and
I would too.
Best,
- Bill
On 1/2/05 7:15 AM, in article
XXXX@XXXXX.COM , "Bentrn"
< XXXX@XXXXX.COM > wrote:
Panther 10.3.6
Office 2004
Windows XP Pro SP2
Office 2003
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On 1/2/05 7:15 AM, in article XXXX@XXXXX.COM , "Bent´ern" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM > wrote<
Re: Word file w/png or .jpg graphic significant more heavy when resaved in word for PC
by John McGhie » Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:00:33 GMT
i Bent:
I would regard encoding JPEG into an EPS file as a waste of time: all you
are doing is increasing the file size. A JPEG is a compressed bitmap (a
raster graphic) of fixed resolution.
A JPEG that prints well on a Laser printer will be huge (a megabyte or so).
A JPEG of emailable size will be fuzzy. There's no "option b" :-)
I "know" that JPEG is very popular in the professional pre-press market.
But they don't care about file size, and they never send stuff by email :-)
They typically use machines with 2 to 4 gigabytes of memory and dual CPUs.
They typically transfer images by disk or CD-ROM, and think nothing of a
one-page document that occupies 250 megabytes. I work in the corporate
market where resources are a little more constrained than that :-)
I see Bill recommends JPEG, and I agree with his points, PROVIDED you don't
want to email these things. Personally, I would be deeply grateful if *I*
did not receive an email from someone with a JPEG letterhead :-) To enhance
my sense of gratitude, I have my email junk filter set up to make sure that
I never see any email with an attachment that big :-)
To get good printing, you need a Vector format image as opposed to a bitmap.
Encoding a JPEG into an EPS does not turn the JPEG into a vector format, it
simply "encapsulates" the fuzzy JPEG bitmap in a format that a PostScript
Printer can handle. To get a high resolution, the file needs to start out
as a vector and stay that way all the way to the printer.
Vectors are mathematical formulae that describe the shape of each picture
element: they have no "resolution", they can scale infinitely and print at
the native resolution of the printer. Unfortunately, "standardisation"
remains a distant hope in the vector format wars. Outside the "Professional
Graphics" arena, getting a good result can be a real lottery.
Word on the Mac supports only the graphics formats supported by QuickTime.
These are listed in the Help topic "Graphics file types you can use in
documents" (which updates from time to time).
The vector formats that I would consider suitable for letterheads are:
€ Compressed Macintosh PICT (PCZ)
€ Compressed Windows Enhanced Metafile (EMZ)
€ Compressed Windows Metafile (WMZ)
€ Encapsulated PostScript File (EPSF, EPS)
€ Enhanced Windows Metafile (EMF)
€ Macintosh Picture (PICT)
€ Portable Document Format (PDF)
€ Windows Metafile (WMF)
The ones I would email to someone who might be using Windows are:
€ Encapsulated PostScript File (EPSF, EPS)
€ Enhanced Windows Metafile (EMF)
€ Macintosh Picture (PICT)
€ Portable Document Format (PDF)
€ Windows Metafile (WMF)
Historically, EPS has always been the format of choice. It has no
significant limitations, it's quite compact, and every computer used to be
able to handle it. Regrettably the advent of cheap inkjet printers has
changed all that: they can't decode PostScript, which is what an EPS
contains.
Of course, a vector picture can be huge too: a complex illustration with
several embedded fonts will easily top a megabyte. But no good graphics
designer would ever design a letterhead of such complexity: it simply
doesn't work as a letterhead!
Nowadays, I use the following rule of thumb to choose: If it's going to a
Macintosh, use PICT, if it's going to Windows, use WMF, if you don't know
where it's going, use... Ummm... Probably PICT. Later versions of Windows
convert PICT quite c
I would regard encoding JPEG into an EPS file as a waste of time: all you
are doing is increasing the file size. A JPEG is a compressed bitmap (a
raster graphic) of fixed resolution.
A JPEG that prints well on a Laser printer will be huge (a megabyte or so).
A JPEG of emailable size will be fuzzy. There's no "option b" :-)
I "know" that JPEG is very popular in the professional pre-press market.
But they don't care about file size, and they never send stuff by email :-)
They typically use machines with 2 to 4 gigabytes of memory and dual CPUs.
They typically transfer images by disk or CD-ROM, and think nothing of a
one-page document that occupies 250 megabytes. I work in the corporate
market where resources are a little more constrained than that :-)
I see Bill recommends JPEG, and I agree with his points, PROVIDED you don't
want to email these things. Personally, I would be deeply grateful if *I*
did not receive an email from someone with a JPEG letterhead :-) To enhance
my sense of gratitude, I have my email junk filter set up to make sure that
I never see any email with an attachment that big :-)
To get good printing, you need a Vector format image as opposed to a bitmap.
Encoding a JPEG into an EPS does not turn the JPEG into a vector format, it
simply "encapsulates" the fuzzy JPEG bitmap in a format that a PostScript
Printer can handle. To get a high resolution, the file needs to start out
as a vector and stay that way all the way to the printer.
Vectors are mathematical formulae that describe the shape of each picture
element: they have no "resolution", they can scale infinitely and print at
the native resolution of the printer. Unfortunately, "standardisation"
remains a distant hope in the vector format wars. Outside the "Professional
Graphics" arena, getting a good result can be a real lottery.
Word on the Mac supports only the graphics formats supported by QuickTime.
These are listed in the Help topic "Graphics file types you can use in
documents" (which updates from time to time).
The vector formats that I would consider suitable for letterheads are:
€ Compressed Macintosh PICT (PCZ)
€ Compressed Windows Enhanced Metafile (EMZ)
€ Compressed Windows Metafile (WMZ)
€ Encapsulated PostScript File (EPSF, EPS)
€ Enhanced Windows Metafile (EMF)
€ Macintosh Picture (PICT)
€ Portable Document Format (PDF)
€ Windows Metafile (WMF)
The ones I would email to someone who might be using Windows are:
€ Encapsulated PostScript File (EPSF, EPS)
€ Enhanced Windows Metafile (EMF)
€ Macintosh Picture (PICT)
€ Portable Document Format (PDF)
€ Windows Metafile (WMF)
Historically, EPS has always been the format of choice. It has no
significant limitations, it's quite compact, and every computer used to be
able to handle it. Regrettably the advent of cheap inkjet printers has
changed all that: they can't decode PostScript, which is what an EPS
contains.
Of course, a vector picture can be huge too: a complex illustration with
several embedded fonts will easily top a megabyte. But no good graphics
designer would ever design a letterhead of such complexity: it simply
doesn't work as a letterhead!
Nowadays, I use the following rule of thumb to choose: If it's going to a
Macintosh, use PICT, if it's going to Windows, use WMF, if you don't know
where it's going, use... Ummm... Probably PICT. Later versions of Windows
convert PICT quite c
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