more annyoing OSX stuff.

I'm trying to give this comp a legitimate shot but damn if it isn't a let 
down after all the praise the "regulars" give you.  When you click on the 
link bard in Safari it doesn't hightlight the whole URL in the there? You 
have to drag to select it all, then delete it before you can type the URL. 
STUPID!!!!

If they could just make it more like Windows it would be sweet. Working 
installs, some manuals, at little smaller learning curve, more intuitive 
features and this comp would be adequate.

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Use Command-L.


You don't have to delete it first.

 

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Apple's way requires an extra step when you want to type an entirely new 
URL, Microsoft's way requires an extra step when you want to edit the 
current URL. So far, that seems like a wash.

The difference is, Apple provides two easy ways to switch to the 
location field with the entire URL selected: click the URL proxy icon, 
or hit command-L. Microsoft doesn't provide a one-click way to edit the 
existing URL -- you always have to first click in the location field, 
then click again to position the cursor. And you have to pause for half 
a second between these clicks, or they're registered as a single 
double-click, which just selects the entire URL and doesn't position the 
cursor.


I don't think I buy into the theory that every system should work as 
poorly as Windows just so you don't have to ever learn anything new.

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Gosh...the same command that works in Windows!



Perhaps if Microsoft would have done a better job copying the Mac's
"look and feel" when they wrote Windows' GUI, MuahMan wouldn't be
having such a hard time.

Of course, having a generally positive attitude when trying new things
(and not sweating the small stuff) would go a long ways too.
Otherwise, you can look forward 45% of all your future meals are
Spaghettio's.


-hh

No, when you click to make IE active, it automatically highlights the entire 
URL. This something I never even noticed happening UNTIL i used a Mac.

A wash? How often do you edit a URL? I dare say... NEVER.

How about a little consistency?  With most Windows apps, you click on
text and it inserts the cursor for editing.  Double click and it
selects a "word", and triple click and it selects a line.  For some
reason Microsoft thinks this should change in Explorer...one click
selects the whole line, double-click inserts cursor and triple click
doesn't seem to do anything consistently.

Why the inconsistency?

With OS X, single click inserts the cursor, double click selects a
"word", and triple click selects the whole line.  This is with every
app that I can think of and the system itself.  Now if triple clicking
is too much effort, simply click on the URL icon or drag the URL icon
to wherever you would want it copied to (if that's what you want).  Of
course a Commnad-L will also select the entire URL.

What more do you want with whole URL selecting?

As far as which one is more intuitive... I can't tell you how many
times I've seen newbies with Explorer click on a URL that I ask them to
edit, only to delete the entire line because they were intuitively
expecting similar behavior as what they experience in other apps.
Whereas with Safari, I normally see newbies easily editing the line, or
when they do need to select the whole thing, I see them dragging the
cursor or Command-A in the field (not the most efficient methods, but a
far better trade off than accidentally deleting the entire URL).

"Mr Ed Of Course" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM > stated in post
 XXXX@XXXXX.COM  on 10/7/05 11:01 AM:



Triple click generally gets the whole paragraph, not just one line.


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"-hh" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM > stated in post
 XXXX@XXXXX.COM  on 10/7/05 10:38 AM:




Where is the Command key on a Windows machine?  Oh - you meant control.  :)


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I do it all the time, and far more often than I ever have to select the
entire URL.  It comes in handy when I need to edit a URL due to a typo
or when I want to navigate a site by moving up/down a directory, or
when doing web development it simply happens all the time.

Selecting an entire URL rarely comes up for me.  Usually it's far
easier to drag the icon if I want to copy and paste a URL.  If I want a
new page where I type the URL, I'll just open a new window (command-n)
or tab (command-t).  If I   want to past a new URL into Safari, I'll
usually drag the URL into the existing browser window or Safari icon.

Personally, I've already edited a URL a couple of time today already.
Perhaps you're avoiding doing so because Windows doesn't make it very
easy to do.


If you're going to type in a whole new URL, then the more efficient way
is to use the Keyboard Shortcut (Control-L) and type away, without ever
having to lift a finger off the keyboard to use the mouse.

If you're going to edit the current URL, then the Windows default IE
interface of highlighting the entire URL represents a waste of time ...

... as well as being internally inconsistent within the Windows OS (as
Mr. Ed pointed out).


In essence, the Windows IE default behavior has *two* "one action"
interface techniques by which you can enter a new URL from scratch, but
*zero* "one action" interface techniques for modifying an existing URL.
  And the Mac OS X default interface has one of each.


-hh

"Mr Ed Of Course" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM > stated in post
 XXXX@XXXXX.COM  on 10/7/05 11:07 AM:








Just a quick note: to navigate up a directory in Safari Command click the
title in the title bar - just as in the Finder you can move up a directory.
Very cool.  Does *any* Windows browser have a similar feature?


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"MuahMan" < XXXX@XXXXX.COM > stated in post
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Never - maybe for you.  I know I do.  Heck, when I post URLs from my site I
often just go to my "main" site and then edit the URL to add the path.  This
is not uncommon.


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I do it all the time. Most often during site development, but fairly 
frequently when I'm just browsing around. The most common case is, of 
course, correcting a typo, but it's also useful for jumping up to a 
higher level of a site without bothering to figure out the site's 
navigation, or jumping around on sites that have clear, memorable 
structures. For instance, if I'm on  http://www.**--****.com/ 
I want to jump to Apple's iBook page, I could click 'Hardware', wait for 
the hardware page to load, find where laptops are listed, and click the 
appropriate link for the iBook. Or I could just double-click to select 
the word 'powerbook' in the URL and then type 'ibook'. That would be 
much faster.

I notice you ignored the rest of my post. The summary is, Apple makes it 
easy to select the entire URL, or to position the cursor within it, or 
to select just part of. Microsoft only makes it easy to select the 
entire URL.

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Except it's not double-click. If it were, that wouldn't be so bad. It 
would still be inconsistent, but at least it would be fast. But 
actually, you need two single-clicks with a space between them. If you 
click fast enough that the system registers a double-click, it just 
selects the URL; it doesn't position the cursor.

And of course, the system's double-click speed can be changed. Which 
means when you sit down at a Windows system, you never quite know how 
long you need to wait between clicks. So your brain learns to wait at 
least a second or two.

This does, in fact, drive me nuts pretty much every time I use IE. 
Particularly since I mostly use IE for testing sites I'm developing, so 
I'm doing a lot of URL editing.

[snip]

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them out of harm's way."
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