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Question about demand for .NET programmers

Postby Will » Sat, 06 Dec 2003 14:43:57 GMT

anyone can share his/her experience in finding .NET 
related jobs? are there many such ads placed in 
newspapers? How does .NET stack up against Java in terms 
of market demand?

Re: Question about demand for .NET programmers

Postby Dhaval Kapasi » Sat, 06 Dec 2003 15:48:33 GMT

hi will,

this article might give u some picture...
 http://www.**--****.com/ 

dhaval









Re: Question about demand for .NET programmers

Postby Will » Sat, 06 Dec 2003 22:41:24 GMT

Thanks, dhaval.
But my question is still not answered.
For one thing the article gave no statistics on the job 
market; and then it written from India's local perspective.

How about the job demand in US/CAN/UK/EUC/Aus/NZ etc? any 
one seen any analysis on this?

Many of my Java-friends say that J2EE still rules today 
(in terms of salary & demand), but .NET *might* gain an 
edge in a few years, any comment on such remarks?

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Re: Question about demand for .NET programmers

Postby Lorne Smith » Sat, 06 Dec 2003 23:57:40 GMT

I think your best bet is to look at some of the various job sites for these
locations and see where most of the vacancies lie...

As what did you expect your Java friends to say :)  My Powerbuilder friends
say the same, and there are hardly ANY jobs for that around in the UK!! :)

Lorne










Re: Question about demand for .NET programmers

Postby » Sun, 07 Dec 2003 05:20:55 GMT

Go to ComputerJobs.com and do some searches.

I found 20 jobs in Atlanta for C#, and 4 for VB.NET. The pay is higher
for C#, and the jobs are generally higher level jobs.

Eric

Re: Question about demand for .NET programmers

Postby Dave Girvitz » Mon, 08 Dec 2003 11:09:43 GMT

As an independant contractor, I do have some insights in my local market.

.Net is slowly gaining on Java.  About a year ago, nobody was doing .Net,
now I'm seeing many postings.  It appears that we are now at the stage where
companies are going past the initial design stages and are now doing
implementations.  This is varying from location to location.  My city,
Calgary, is jumping on the .Net bandwagon.  Edmonton, about 400 Km north of
here, is largely Java.

Many of my Java friends are now starting to say good things about .Net. They
are finding that the .Net framework does offer significant advantages over
Java on all levels.  Remember the early days when they said that .Net was
for forms applications, but the server side was a Java preserve.  This has
now been largely disproven.  With web services being so easy to implement in
.Net and remoting being light years ahead of RPC, there just isn't any
comparison.  Along with the greater emphasis on unit testing and other
measures, we are finding that projects are being completed faster and with
fewer bugs.

I personally believe that .Net 1 and 1.1 will become increasingly popular
over the next couple of years.  .Net 2, however, is shaping up to be a bit
of different story.  Although I am e{*filter*}d about some of the features
coming, I do have some concerns.  It appears that version 2 will be tightly
tied to their new file system (winFs).  My initial guess is that, for this
reason, it will not offer backwards compatibility (in order to use the .Net
2 preview, you also have to install some sort of interface that creates some
sort of winFs shell).  I am also concerned that the new file system is going
to be based on SQL-Server in some way.  MS will have to address the obvious
concern here: how will servers/users be protected from another slammer like
virus attack.  Remember, that in this context, a slammer clone will not
disrupt a database application, but will result in crashing the entire file
system.  For this reason (plus the other obvious forced OS upgrade issue),
I think that the new version of Windows (and thus .Net 2) will be very slow
in being adopted.  In addition, .Net 2 is not scheduled for public release
until 2006.  I suspect that it will not become common until 2009-2010.

Thus, learning .Net 1/1.1 now, you should be working with a relatively
stable environment for a number of years.  In addition, with its gaining
popularity, it will have some good job prospects.  One other advantage: .Net
is not generally taught in the universities while Java is.  Net result,
every university grad knows Java, while the knowledge pool of .Net is
considerably less.

Anyway, that's my rant for today.  Hope it helps.
Dave Girvitz, MCAD.


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Re: Question about demand for .NET programmers

Postby John McClenny » Mon, 08 Dec 2003 13:59:29 GMT

In article <064c01c3baf2$c6812430$ XXXX@XXXXX.COM >, 
 XXXX@XXXXX.COM  says...

Right now, the vast majority of the jobs are Java.

.NET internal development has mainly been retrained current employees 
instead of new hires.  .NET is new enough that there isn't that much 
development as compared to J2EE/EJB jobs.  

This mixture will change over the next few years, but for now, Java is 
it.

Re: Question about demand for .NET programmers

Postby Humanity » Tue, 09 Dec 2003 05:00:08 GMT




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Re: Question about demand for .NET programmers

Postby Dave Girvitz » Tue, 09 Dec 2003 12:14:55 GMT

hanks. Looking over it, I realize that I made 2 mistakes. When I said RPC,
I meant RMI (remote method identification). When I said .Net 2, I meant .Net
3 (I was rechecking the technology roadmap). Just goes to show that I
shouldn't mouth off without thinking about what I'm saying.
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Re: Question about demand for .NET programmers

Postby Will » Thu, 11 Dec 2003 11:35:18 GMT

Thanks Dave,

your reply is most insightful!
Esp. the remark on Univs teaching java giving .net guys in 
the trenches an advantage :)
I'd been worrying that corps would go for java due to its 
common coverage in textbooks. In retrospect, Pascal was 
also in vogue back in the 80s but never really caught on 
in large scale commercial apps. (Delphi is still a 
sidekick, IMHO)

Thanks. Looking over it, I realize that I made 2 
mistakes.  When I said RPC,
I meant RMI (remote method identification). When I 
said .Net 2, I meant .Net3 (I was rechecking the 
technology roadmap).  Just goes to show that I shouldn't 
mouth off without thinking about what I'm saying.


Re: Question about demand for .NET programmers

Postby Mas Jabier » Thu, 18 Dec 2003 13:21:40 GMT

>-----Original Message-----
terms 
current employees 

+ John, it's because most of old users using VB/ASP have 
not migrated to .NET Framework. IMHO,as soon as they are 
migrating, .NET Framework will be in higher rate. Just 
compare the usage of VB & Java Development, and forecast 
it for .NET.

Jody Ananda
MCAD,MCSD.Net


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