Thanks for your suggestion, it's a good one but didn't fix this challenge. I've turned on Tools - Options - View - Formatting Marks - All, looked for field codes, looked for layers I could send to back -- none of these worked. Then I tried using Edit - Find to find the number. Find stops at a place where I can't see anything -- but I hit delete there, ran Find again and it did not stop there again. Thought I had it solved -- number was gone when I printed Current Page to check. But when I print the whole document it still shows up, only now it's a 20 instead of a 12!! Maybe number change is a meaningful clue. Any other ideas? Thanks again. page number frame http://www.**--****.com/ ~sbarnhill/WanderingFrame.htm to the newsgroup so when it to