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Question - aggregates..

Postby jihwan2 » Sun, 14 Sep 2003 05:03:11 GMT

-- incr8.vhd

library ieee;
use ieee.std_logic_1164.all;
use ieee.std_logic_unsigned.all;

entity incr8 is
    port (
        a : in std_logic_vector(7 downto 0);
        cin : in std_logic;
        dout : out std_logic_vector(7 downto 0);
        cout : out std_logic
    );
end entity incr8;

architecture a1 of incr8 is
    signal sum : std_logic_vector(8 downto 0);
begin
    -- sum <= ('0' & a) + ( 8 downto 1 => '0', 0 => cin ) ;
    -- above line does not work. why? 
    sum <= ( '0' & a ) + ( "00000000" & cin ) ;
    cout <= sum(8);
    dout <= sum(7 downto 0);
end architecture a1;

-- tool used is Synplicity's Synplify

Re: Question - aggregates..

Postby jihwan2 » Tue, 16 Sep 2003 23:02:58 GMT

Hi Tim,
I tried these two ways but they both don't work:

    sum <= ('0' & a) + ( 0 => cin, others => '0' ) ;
Error : aggregate with others must be in a constrained context

    sum <= ('0' & a) + ( ( 0 => cin ), ( others => '0' ) ) ;
Error : Can't convert expression to type std_logic
Error : Can't convert expression to type std_logic 
        (2 identical errors on the same line)

On the other hand, I get no error for following code (original
code that had problem) but the result is simply not what I expected :
    sum <= ('0' & a) + ( 8 downto 1 => '0', 0 => cin ) ;

I can go around the problem but I believed it should work this way
either. If there's something wrong with the code, I'd like know
what exactly is wrong to understand better VHDL standard.

Jihwan Song

Re: Question - aggregates..

Postby Egbert Molenkamp » Tue, 16 Sep 2003 23:39:29 GMT

sum <= ('0' & a) + ( 0 => cin, others => '0' ) ;
is not correct since what are the others? Remember that it is not required
for the addition operator that the left and the right operand has the same
length!

Here are some solution that will work (I hope)

sum <= ('0' & a) + ( '0' & cin ) ;
Notice that in this example both operands do indeed not have the same
length.
Operand a, the longest vector, is extended with a zero. This results in an
output with carry.
The cin is only concatenated with '0'. The function "+" will automatically
extend the shortest
vector to the required length!! (You don't have to make that explicit).

But you tried that: sum <= ('0' & a) + ( 8 downto 1 => '0', 0 => cin ) ;
Although it is correct VHDL and will also synthesize ( correctly :) ) the
result was surprising to you.
Remember that is a vector is declared that has NO explicit range the vector
has a "to-direction".
This means that ( 8 downto 1 => '0', 0 => cin )  will result in a vector "0
to 8" with the pattern
cin&"00000000". So the cin is on the left (and not on the right).

Try: sum <= ('0' & a) + ( 0 to 7 => '0', 8 => cin ) ;
This will work.

Another way to solve if you like to write down the length of the vector
explict is:
     sum <= ('0' & a) +  ((a'range=>'0') & cin) ;

Notice that a is vector (7 downto 0). So ((a'range=>'0') will result is
00000000, and on the right it is concatenated with cin.

But I prefer the first short solution :
sum <= ('0' & a) + ( '0' & cin ) ;

Egbert Molenkamp


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Re: Question - aggregates..

Postby FE » Wed, 17 Sep 2003 03:58:49 GMT

> sum <= ('0' & a) + ( '0' & cin ) ;
Great solution Egbert but you could just write:
sum <= ('0' & a) + cin;
because in  ieee.std_logic_unsigned (the library used by Kot) the operation
std_logic_vector + std_logic is defined.

Kot,
ieee.std_logic_unsigned is not an ieee library (it's a synopsys library) and
you should use ieee.numeric_std.

library ieee;
use ieee.std_logic_1164.all;
use ieee.numeric_std.all;

architecture a1 of incr8 is
  signal sum : unsigned(8 downto 0);
begin
  sum <= unsigned('0' & a) + ('0' & cin); -- with Egbert's solution ( '0' &
cin)
  cout <= sum(8);
  dout <= std_logic_vector(sum(7 downto 0));
end architecture a1;

regards
fe





Re: Question - aggregates..

Postby jihwan2 » Wed, 17 Sep 2003 20:26:43 GMT

Thank you very much Egbert, fe!
Both of your answeres were very helpful.

Jihwan Song

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