Is there anyway to run 16-bit apps on Vista 64 bit?

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Is there anyway to run 16-bit apps on Vista 64 bit?

Postby Stuart Jackson » Tue, 30 Sep 2008 17:49:44 GMT

We have a few legacy applications which are 16-bit.  Anyone know of a
way or a utility which will allow 16-bit apps to run on Vista 64?

Re: Is there anyway to run 16-bit apps on Vista 64 bit?

Postby Dominic Payer » Tue, 30 Sep 2008 18:57:03 GMT

If they are DOS apps, DOSBox might work.  http://www.**--****.com/ 

If they need Windows, Microsoft VirtualPC 
 http://www.**--****.com/ 
will work if they do not need to access hardware other than serial and 
parallel ports.

If they need access to USB, VirtualBox  http://www.**--****.com/ 
Player  http://www.**--****.com/ 
 http://www.**--****.com/ #VMXBuilder are free.

You will need a licensed copy of 16-bit capable Windows to run in the 
virtual machines, i.e. anything from Windows 95 up to XP.








Re: Is there anyway to run 16-bit apps on Vista 64 bit?

Postby Charlie Russel - MVP » Tue, 30 Sep 2008 22:24:05 GMT

No direct way - the support simply isn't there. That being said, using a 
virtualization solution (VirtualPC, VMWare, whatever) on your Vista host and 
running a legacy operatng system in the child VM is a viable solution. There 
are even workarounds for USB here (See my blog post on FabulaTech.)

I've covered this in a couple of blog posts as a reasonable solution to any 
compatibility issue. Your 16 bit applications will have access to normal 
networking communications with the host machine, but in most solutions not 
drag and drop between them.

-- 
Charlie.
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Re: Is there anyway to run 16-bit apps on Vista 64 bit?

Postby Stuart Jackson » Mon, 06 Oct 2008 02:12:42 GMT

On Sep 29, 6:24 am, "Charlie Russel - MVP"





So it seems the only way to do this is to run a separate OS (XP, 98,
etc) under a virtual machine (ie. install the virtual machine on Vista
64, then install XP or whatever under the virtual machine).  Am I
understanding this correctly?

Re: Is there anyway to run 16-bit apps on Vista 64 bit?

Postby Zootal » Mon, 06 Oct 2008 04:35:18 GMT

> So it seems the only way to do this is to run a separate OS (XP, 98,

Have you tried DosBox?  http://www.**--****.com/ 



Re: Is there anyway to run 16-bit apps on Vista 64 bit?

Postby Dominic Payer » Mon, 06 Oct 2008 06:31:09 GMT

Yes. There is no known way to emulate 32 or 16 bit Windows.











Re: Is there anyway to run 16-bit apps on Vista 64 bit?

Postby Jawade » Mon, 06 Oct 2008 07:05:24 GMT

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Yes, thats a easy and good way. Dual-boot is also possible
but that needs a restart.


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Re: Is there anyway to run 16-bit apps on Vista 64 bit?

Postby Charlie Russel - MVP » Mon, 06 Oct 2008 23:52:43 GMT

Correct. You must run a virtualization application such as Virtual PC and 
create a virtual machine. Install your choice of legacy OS in that VM. There 
is NO support for 16 bit applications in any 64-bit version of Windows.

-- 
Charlie.
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Re: Is there anyway to run 16-bit apps on Vista 64 bit?

Postby Charlie Russel - MVP » Mon, 06 Oct 2008 23:54:07 GMT

and loses you access to the 64bit Windows when you're in the second boot. 
Overall, a much less satisfactory solution for most situations, IME.

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