Want to save space on C: is it safe to move ClientApps folder??

Hi,
For some unknown reason, Dell in their wisdom partitioned the disk space as:

C: 12.00GB
D: 62.39GB
E: 74.00GB

For our Small Business Server 2003.

I was worried it was a bit low when I first saw how much they had allocated, 
it is now sending me alerts to indicate that it got as low as 498MB free. 
They had also put the 2GB swap file on the C: drive so that is now on E: 
(barr 200MB of it!) which has meant a quick but only interim fix.

The only other location I can easily save some space is the ClientApps 
folder.  If I Cut the folder from C: to E: (D: is the main data folder) will 
it preserve the share? or should I remove the share (after carefully noting 
the permissions applied to it), cut the unshared folder to the E: drive and 
then manually replace the permissions?

My feeling is that the Share should be manually removed, the folder moved to 
E: and then the share and permissions put back.

Could anyone advise me if this will a) work or fail and b) if it will fail, 
is there a more elegant way of shifting the ClientApps folder that doesn't 
break SBS 2003??

Are there any other file locations that contain a large quantity of dross 
that can be removed. I have cleared the temporary foldrs already!

Graham Sivill 

A simple search of the Microsoft Knowledge Base for "sbs 2003 move folders" 
gives this article:  http://www.**--****.com/ 
others, too.

Gregg Hill

You might consider moving the Exchange databases if you have not already 
done this. Easily done from within Exchange System Manager.  Exchance data 
tends to grow in time, could well be a couple of Gb already.

Gregg,
Thanks for your response.  I'll check that one out.

I detect from your tone that you feel I should have been able to locate this 
one myself, you're probably right, but I have given up with the MS KB as I 
either can't find what I want, or I do it and it ends up with one of those 
"if your system is affected by this fault you need to call MS Product 
Support Services and if we decide that the problem isn't really this one 
we'll charge you 000 for our time in fixing what the problem is" type 
messages. Sorry MS, but the customers I deal with don't have that kind of 
cash to spend and I certainly don't! That is why they bought SBS rather than 
the full Back Office Products.

I personally prefer the help and advice of real users who have seen the same 
problems and have dealt with it more helpful.

Graham Sivill






>>A simple search of the Microsoft Knowledge Base for "sbs 2003 move folders" 
>>gives this article:  http://www.**--****.com/ 
>>others, too.
>>
>> Gregg Hill
>>
>>
>>




>>> Hi,
>>> For some unknown reason, Dell in their wisdom partitioned the disk space 
>>> as:
>>>
>>> C: 12.00GB
>>> D: 62.39GB
>>> E: 74.00GB
>>>
>>> For our Small Business Server 2003.
>>>
>>> I was worried it was a bit low when I first saw how much they had 
>>> allocated, it is now sending me alerts to indicate that it got as low as 
>>> 498MB free. They had also put the 2GB swap file on the C: drive so that 
>>> is now on E: (barr 200MB of it!) which has meant a quick but only interim 
>>> fix.
>>>
>>> The only other location I can easily save some space is the ClientApps 
>>> folder.  If I Cut the folder from C: to E: (D: is the main data folder) 
>>> will it preserve the share? or should I remove the share (after carefully 
>>> noting the permissions applied to it), cut the unshared folder to the E: 
>>> drive and then manually replace the permissions?
>>>
>>> My feeling is that the Share should be manually removed, the folder moved 
>>> to E: and then the share and permissions put back.
>>>
>>> Could anyone advise me if this will a) work or fail and b) if it will 
>>> fail, is there a more elegant way of shifting the ClientApps folder that 
>>> doesn't break SBS 2003??
>>>
>>> Are there any other file locations that contain a large quantity of dross 
>>> that can be removed. I have cleared the temporary foldrs already!
>>>
>>> Graham Sivill
>>>
>>
>> 

Mal,
Thanks, I hadn't though of that, the file is about 1.5GB and like you say 
could easily be moved to the D: or E: drives.  I checked the log files in 
the MDBDATA subfolder and there was only one occupying 5MB so the backup is 
correctly removing old ones.

Graham Sivill

Siv < XXXX@XXXXX.COM > typed:

That doesn't sound that awful to me. However, I always reinstall when I get 
a server....from scratch. OS & internal apps only on system volume - 
Exchange databases & logs on D, user data, client apps, whatever, on E.

Move Exchange:  http://www.**--****.com/ 
Move ClientApps & other SBS folders: 
 http://www.**--****.com/ 

Comments in line;
/kj




Wow! Sounds like Dell's "Wisdom" is improving. Often Dell in the past made 
it flat or everything installed on C and D empty.


Just for comparative preferences, I use D for Data, E for Exchange and C for 
Cystem. ;-)
..and if there's space left over, a small F for admin only purposes. Before 
Exchange SP2 beta and > 16G capability, E: was 40G. Now, up to 200GB but 
balanced with resources and profiled business requirements of file share and 
redirected my documents.

New installs get a 20g C: with SPs and Cougar in mind.

fwiw.

Graham,

One more thing. Have you ever actually paid and used MS support? They are 
PHENOMENAL in their support. I have never received better support than I 
have from MS when the poop hit the fan. Way beyond $245 USD worth!

Gregg Hill









>>>A simple search of the Microsoft Knowledge Base for "sbs 2003 move 
>>>folders" gives this article:  http://www.**--****.com/ 
>>>There are others, too.
>>>
>>> Gregg Hill
>>>
>>>
>>>




>>>> Hi,
>>>> For some unknown reason, Dell in their wisdom partitioned the disk space 
>>>> as:
>>>>
>>>> C: 12.00GB
>>>> D: 62.39GB
>>>> E: 74.00GB
>>>>
>>>> For our Small Business Server 2003.
>>>>
>>>> I was worried it was a bit low when I first saw how much they had 
>>>> allocated, it is now sending me alerts to indicate that it got as low as 
>>>> 498MB free. They had also put the 2GB swap file on the C: drive so that 
>>>> is now on E: (barr 200MB of it!) which has meant a quick but only 
>>>> interim fix.
>>>>
>>>> The only other location I can easily save some space is the ClientApps 
>>>> folder.  If I Cut the folder from C: to E: (D: is the main data folder) 
>>>> will it preserve the share? or should I remove the share (after 
>>>> carefully noting the permissions applied to it), cut the unshared folder 
>>>> to the E: drive and then manually replace the permissions?
>>>>
>>>> My feeling is that the Share should be manually removed, the folder 
>>>> moved to E: and then the share and permissions put back.
>>>>
>>>> Could anyone advise me if this will a) work or fail and b) if it will 
>>>> fail, is there a more elegant way of shifting the ClientApps folder that 
>>>> doesn't break SBS 2003??
>>>>
>>>> Are there any other file locations that contain a large quantity of 
>>>> dross that can be removed. I have cleared the temporary foldrs already!
>>>>
>>>> Graham Sivill
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> 

/kj < XXXX@XXXXX.COM > typed:


Yes, indeed.....or just a single partition.


Whatever makes sense for you.

Lanwench,
I am with you, but due to time constraints (ie cost  to customer) I decided 
to leave the Dell installation as is.  Down the line if there is any 
problems I may re-install it and use that sort of layout.

Since getting help from these forums, I have moved the Exchange databases 
and logs to the D: drive (all the customer's files are on D: and that keeps 
the backup simple if the Exchange data is on that drive as well). I also 
moved the ClientApps folder to the E: drive, so we now have 6.5GB free on 
the C: drive.

Thanks
Graham Sivill

"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"